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		<title>By: Sasa Espinoza</title>
		<link>http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/09/free-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-57637</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasa Espinoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can be sued with your post, well I hope not. Is there anyone here know something where I can get &lt;a href=&quot;http://eyelashgrowthproductsreview.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;eyelash growth&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can be sued with your post, well I hope not. Is there anyone here know something where I can get <a href="http://eyelashgrowthproductsreview.org" rel="nofollow">eyelash growth</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: promissory note</title>
		<link>http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/09/free-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-31422</link>
		<dc:creator>promissory note</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops Sorry , I just came to read and listen you guys comment, but for me i have no comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops Sorry , I just came to read and listen you guys comment, but for me i have no comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/09/free-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-14641</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today when a student engaged in open debate with these people they responded not with intelligent debate, but name calling. When asked to define facism, these people call the student a &quot;faggot&quot;.

They are idiots, plain and simple. Someone calls you out? Call &#039;em names! This is the tactic of persons who have absolutely NO idea what they are talking about. They need to get off our campus and stop harassing us; I don&#039;t pay the ridiculous amounts I do for these people to harass me and I don&#039;t think anyone else does either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today when a student engaged in open debate with these people they responded not with intelligent debate, but name calling. When asked to define facism, these people call the student a &#8220;faggot&#8221;.</p>
<p>They are idiots, plain and simple. Someone calls you out? Call &#8216;em names! This is the tactic of persons who have absolutely NO idea what they are talking about. They need to get off our campus and stop harassing us; I don&#8217;t pay the ridiculous amounts I do for these people to harass me and I don&#8217;t think anyone else does either.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/09/free-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-14015</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a longtime LaRouche supporter, but I don&#039;t choose to argue the criticisms posted here. Others have already done so. Those who care about the truth will check out the various LaRouche websites and see for themselves. Those who do not chose to do so are not too credible on the subject, IMO. 

What seriously concerns me is that nobody here chooses to discuss or evaluation LaRouche&#039;s assertion that applying cost-benefit analysis to Medicare, via an &quot;independent&quot; advisory panel (the IMAC proposal - you can Google it) is comparable, if not identical to Hitlers &quot;Tiergarten 4&quot; panela in Nazi Germany. Why not figure out if the policies Obama is pushing really *will* result in the death of Medicare recipients before shooting off your mouths about &quot;hate speech&quot; which is arguably the simple truth. 

Just a thought,
-Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a longtime LaRouche supporter, but I don&#8217;t choose to argue the criticisms posted here. Others have already done so. Those who care about the truth will check out the various LaRouche websites and see for themselves. Those who do not chose to do so are not too credible on the subject, IMO. </p>
<p>What seriously concerns me is that nobody here chooses to discuss or evaluation LaRouche&#8217;s assertion that applying cost-benefit analysis to Medicare, via an &#8220;independent&#8221; advisory panel (the IMAC proposal &#8211; you can Google it) is comparable, if not identical to Hitlers &#8220;Tiergarten 4&#8243; panela in Nazi Germany. Why not figure out if the policies Obama is pushing really *will* result in the death of Medicare recipients before shooting off your mouths about &#8220;hate speech&#8221; which is arguably the simple truth. </p>
<p>Just a thought,<br />
-Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/09/free-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-13282</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard about these guys in my Chicano Literature class, so I thought I&#039;d check them out.

I stood and talked to a guy their for a good 5-10 minutes. I let him do the talking, and I was not impressed. He insisted on eating an egg sandwich while talking with me, and he spoke with his mouth full. He claimed Obama&#039;s &quot;Death Panel&#039;s&quot; were &quot;just like Hitler,&quot; and concluded that Obama was trying to kill us all. He admitted the current health care system is not up to his standards either.

Solutions, didn&#039;t hear any. Just heard him try to confuse what he thought was a &quot;naive freshman&quot; with citing articles in the bill.

I was glad to hear they were doing this last year with Bush, and would have done it with McCain if he won. At least they are not biased with their stupidity.

I heard him out, and I was not impressed. They are idiots, plain and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard about these guys in my Chicano Literature class, so I thought I&#8217;d check them out.</p>
<p>I stood and talked to a guy their for a good 5-10 minutes. I let him do the talking, and I was not impressed. He insisted on eating an egg sandwich while talking with me, and he spoke with his mouth full. He claimed Obama&#8217;s &#8220;Death Panel&#8217;s&#8221; were &#8220;just like Hitler,&#8221; and concluded that Obama was trying to kill us all. He admitted the current health care system is not up to his standards either.</p>
<p>Solutions, didn&#8217;t hear any. Just heard him try to confuse what he thought was a &#8220;naive freshman&#8221; with citing articles in the bill.</p>
<p>I was glad to hear they were doing this last year with Bush, and would have done it with McCain if he won. At least they are not biased with their stupidity.</p>
<p>I heard him out, and I was not impressed. They are idiots, plain and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyn Marcus</title>
		<link>http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/09/free-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-13208</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyn Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silerchild 57. can you tell the world how much of the 34 million dollars that we took from the elderly has been repaid?

As a Jewish person, can you shed some light for everyone about The Protocals of The Elders of Zion?

Do you think that the words used in the Debbie Freeman pamphlet about an elected African American Senator in calling him a &quot;House Nigger&quot; are correct?  Read that pamphlet to get a real taste of this nasty cult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silerchild 57. can you tell the world how much of the 34 million dollars that we took from the elderly has been repaid?</p>
<p>As a Jewish person, can you shed some light for everyone about The Protocals of The Elders of Zion?</p>
<p>Do you think that the words used in the Debbie Freeman pamphlet about an elected African American Senator in calling him a &#8220;House Nigger&#8221; are correct?  Read that pamphlet to get a real taste of this nasty cult.</p>
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		<title>By: silverchild57</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am horrified to witness young people being so &quot;politically correct&quot;, thoughtless, and controlled by popular opinion, as to react to the LaRouche organizers in the same way stupid &quot;liberal&quot; and &quot;right-wing&quot; baby boomers do.

LaRouche has been fighting fascism his entire adult life, even when he was a voice crying in the wilderness, slandered by the rotten news media, unjustly thrown in prison by the George H.W. Bush Administration, etc. A courageous fighter for the truth no matter what was thrown at him.  That is one of the things I most admire about him; he fights for what&#039;s right, even if nobody else does!  That takes some stones, something virtually nobody in Washington has anymore!

I am Jewish, and I know there is not a racist or anti-Semitic bone in Lyndon&#039;s body. As for Obama&#039;s &quot;health care&quot; plan, just read E-Z-Kill Emmanuel&#039;s writings-it&#039;s all there-&quot;if they&#039;re too old, or too sick, let &#039;em die-we can&#039;t afford &#039;em&quot;  If that aint Hitler, what is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am horrified to witness young people being so &#8220;politically correct&#8221;, thoughtless, and controlled by popular opinion, as to react to the LaRouche organizers in the same way stupid &#8220;liberal&#8221; and &#8220;right-wing&#8221; baby boomers do.</p>
<p>LaRouche has been fighting fascism his entire adult life, even when he was a voice crying in the wilderness, slandered by the rotten news media, unjustly thrown in prison by the George H.W. Bush Administration, etc. A courageous fighter for the truth no matter what was thrown at him.  That is one of the things I most admire about him; he fights for what&#8217;s right, even if nobody else does!  That takes some stones, something virtually nobody in Washington has anymore!</p>
<p>I am Jewish, and I know there is not a racist or anti-Semitic bone in Lyndon&#8217;s body. As for Obama&#8217;s &#8220;health care&#8221; plan, just read E-Z-Kill Emmanuel&#8217;s writings-it&#8217;s all there-&#8221;if they&#8217;re too old, or too sick, let &#8216;em die-we can&#8217;t afford &#8216;em&#8221;  If that aint Hitler, what is?</p>
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		<title>By: Lyn Marcus</title>
		<link>http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/09/free-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-13107</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyn Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larouche is not an economist but a convicted criminal  and cult leader who was sent to prison in the 1980s for hijacking over 30 million dollars from people who thought that he was a legitimate person. In this regards, Larouche is more of a Bernie Madoff with his cult&#039;s promissory note schemes and credit card fraud. Like Madoff, hardly anyone who lost a total of nearly 34 million dollars in this madmans delusions and fraud will ever see a dime.
 
 
Larouche has been a socialist, communist, Christian, left/right winger, pro Russian, anti Russian and anything else you can imagine to sucker people to his delusions.For over 40 years he has been running a cult of endless economic collapse, New Dark Ages and Nuclear war to recruit enough naive colege kids to drop out of school and support him. His cult skips many labor laws as he has them called &quot;volunteers&quot; and has them running like hamsters 18 hours a day, 6 1/2 to 7 days a week with one crisis after another for about 20 to 40 dollars a week.
 
This cult circus has been going on for over 40 years by Larouche who has to recruit new blood to replace the worn out and broken down cult members who are discarded or those who have figured out how this farce works. Several hundred people have left the cult and in the last dying days of the elderly Larouche, he needs a few naive people to keep him and his wife living that millionaire lifestyle.
 
You can read about how this charade is run on sites like:
 
http://laroucheplanet.info/
 
http://american-lycurgus.blogspot.com/
 
http://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/
 
 http://www.factnet.org/  under discussions where there are over 6K posts from former members about this lunacy.
 
This is a bum who had the anti semitic Protocols of the Elders of Zion placed in his propaganda.
 
If you want to see what the real Larouche has to say about Obama, check out what he told his cult privately last year .
 
http://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/larouche-obama-menu.htm
 
&quot; I mean: Obama is a racist. I mean, with an African father--he wasn&#039;t much of an African father, but was an African father of Kenya. He was part of a British operation, which took over Kenya, through MI5&#039;s operation. But this guy was away from Kenya, and he married a Margaret Mead type, a woman who had a number of successive husbands, like Margaret Mead did. Went out to the poor, brown people, in Asia, and had sex with them! It was called &quot;Coming in Samoa.&quot; [groans, laughter] And she wore through a number of successive husbands, and by them, had various children. And therefore, you&#039;ll find Obama&#039;s ancestry, if you chase his family tree, everybody&#039;s climbing and swinging from the branches there--from all over the world! All parts of the world! This guy is the universal man. Every monkey in every tree, from every part of the world, has participated in the sexual act of producing him. And he works for organized crime--which is a branch of British intelligence. &quot;
 
 
 
If you give your name and phone number to the cult, they will be calling you endlessly to save humanity which seems to be only done by emptying your bank account with them. If you are in college, then the way to save humanity  is for you to drop out of college, toil endlessly at their card table shrines or boiler rooms raising money for him. You basicaly work for free as most people do in cults.

Whatever is the current script is all just a mirage as it can change on a dime when Larouche needs you to raise money from another list of people. Last year, Obama was the devil incarnate,. Then , Obama is being advised by Larouche.  Now Obama is Hitler.  Read up on how this cult operates so you do not get hoodwinked by them. 

If you have a desire to do political work, find a real org instead of a cult to spend your time with. 

These cultists call themselves Democrats?  Read what the cults LPAC  National Leader had to say about a Black Democratic Senator years ago to see what sort of crazy town you are about to enter.
 

http://wlym.com/PDF-SpReps/SPRP24.pdf
 

Just google  Debbie Freeman with Parren Mitchell and see that the Senator had to pull a gun on the cult gang sent to his house.
 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/cult/larouche/larou4.htm
 

&quot;His outfit smacks of fascism to me,&quot; Rep. Parren J. Mitchell (D-Md.) said in a statement introduced in the libel case. Mitchell said in an interview that LaRouche supporters tried to break up his political gatherings in Baltimore and distributed literature calling him a drug dealer and a &quot;house nigger.&quot; Mitchell said he received several anonymous telephone calls, including one death threat. 


&quot;I knew it was them because I recognized some of their voices,&quot; Mitchell said. He said the harassment ended soon after he pulled a gun on a group of LaRouche supporters gathered outside his Baltimore home. &quot;

Please interview these cultist and ask them about things like the minimum wage , OT and how they pay their taxes as well as the business taxes.  Use your camera phone to ask them specific questions about health care and see what fools they are.  There may be a big story of the numerous wage and labor law abuses by this sweat shop for a journalist to uncover. They raise over 7 million a year and pay people a few dollars a DAY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larouche is not an economist but a convicted criminal  and cult leader who was sent to prison in the 1980s for hijacking over 30 million dollars from people who thought that he was a legitimate person. In this regards, Larouche is more of a Bernie Madoff with his cult&#8217;s promissory note schemes and credit card fraud. Like Madoff, hardly anyone who lost a total of nearly 34 million dollars in this madmans delusions and fraud will ever see a dime.</p>
<p>Larouche has been a socialist, communist, Christian, left/right winger, pro Russian, anti Russian and anything else you can imagine to sucker people to his delusions.For over 40 years he has been running a cult of endless economic collapse, New Dark Ages and Nuclear war to recruit enough naive colege kids to drop out of school and support him. His cult skips many labor laws as he has them called &#8220;volunteers&#8221; and has them running like hamsters 18 hours a day, 6 1/2 to 7 days a week with one crisis after another for about 20 to 40 dollars a week.</p>
<p>This cult circus has been going on for over 40 years by Larouche who has to recruit new blood to replace the worn out and broken down cult members who are discarded or those who have figured out how this farce works. Several hundred people have left the cult and in the last dying days of the elderly Larouche, he needs a few naive people to keep him and his wife living that millionaire lifestyle.</p>
<p>You can read about how this charade is run on sites like:</p>
<p><a href="http://laroucheplanet.info/" rel="nofollow">http://laroucheplanet.info/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://american-lycurgus.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://american-lycurgus.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/" rel="nofollow">http://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/</a></p>
<p> <a href="http://www.factnet.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.factnet.org/</a>  under discussions where there are over 6K posts from former members about this lunacy.</p>
<p>This is a bum who had the anti semitic Protocols of the Elders of Zion placed in his propaganda.</p>
<p>If you want to see what the real Larouche has to say about Obama, check out what he told his cult privately last year .</p>
<p><a href="http://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/larouche-obama-menu.htm" rel="nofollow">http://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/larouche-obama-menu.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8221; I mean: Obama is a racist. I mean, with an African father&#8211;he wasn&#8217;t much of an African father, but was an African father of Kenya. He was part of a British operation, which took over Kenya, through MI5&#8242;s operation. But this guy was away from Kenya, and he married a Margaret Mead type, a woman who had a number of successive husbands, like Margaret Mead did. Went out to the poor, brown people, in Asia, and had sex with them! It was called &#8220;Coming in Samoa.&#8221; [groans, laughter] And she wore through a number of successive husbands, and by them, had various children. And therefore, you&#8217;ll find Obama&#8217;s ancestry, if you chase his family tree, everybody&#8217;s climbing and swinging from the branches there&#8211;from all over the world! All parts of the world! This guy is the universal man. Every monkey in every tree, from every part of the world, has participated in the sexual act of producing him. And he works for organized crime&#8211;which is a branch of British intelligence. &#8221;</p>
<p>If you give your name and phone number to the cult, they will be calling you endlessly to save humanity which seems to be only done by emptying your bank account with them. If you are in college, then the way to save humanity  is for you to drop out of college, toil endlessly at their card table shrines or boiler rooms raising money for him. You basicaly work for free as most people do in cults.</p>
<p>Whatever is the current script is all just a mirage as it can change on a dime when Larouche needs you to raise money from another list of people. Last year, Obama was the devil incarnate,. Then , Obama is being advised by Larouche.  Now Obama is Hitler.  Read up on how this cult operates so you do not get hoodwinked by them. </p>
<p>If you have a desire to do political work, find a real org instead of a cult to spend your time with. </p>
<p>These cultists call themselves Democrats?  Read what the cults LPAC  National Leader had to say about a Black Democratic Senator years ago to see what sort of crazy town you are about to enter.</p>
<p><a href="http://wlym.com/PDF-SpReps/SPRP24.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://wlym.com/PDF-SpReps/SPRP24.pdf</a></p>
<p>Just google  Debbie Freeman with Parren Mitchell and see that the Senator had to pull a gun on the cult gang sent to his house.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/cult/larouche/larou4.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/cult/larouche/larou4.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;His outfit smacks of fascism to me,&#8221; Rep. Parren J. Mitchell (D-Md.) said in a statement introduced in the libel case. Mitchell said in an interview that LaRouche supporters tried to break up his political gatherings in Baltimore and distributed literature calling him a drug dealer and a &#8220;house nigger.&#8221; Mitchell said he received several anonymous telephone calls, including one death threat. </p>
<p>&#8220;I knew it was them because I recognized some of their voices,&#8221; Mitchell said. He said the harassment ended soon after he pulled a gun on a group of LaRouche supporters gathered outside his Baltimore home. &#8221;</p>
<p>Please interview these cultist and ask them about things like the minimum wage , OT and how they pay their taxes as well as the business taxes.  Use your camera phone to ask them specific questions about health care and see what fools they are.  There may be a big story of the numerous wage and labor law abuses by this sweat shop for a journalist to uncover. They raise over 7 million a year and pay people a few dollars a DAY.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Murr</title>
		<link>http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/09/free-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-13103</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Murr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more important question, I think, is would the writer of this article have even batted an eyelash at the many portrayals of former President Bush as Hitler that were ubiquitous over the past 8 years?

See for example:
http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=612

I&#039;d be quite shocked if nothing of the sort ever made it&#039;s way onto the CSUN campus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more important question, I think, is would the writer of this article have even batted an eyelash at the many portrayals of former President Bush as Hitler that were ubiquitous over the past 8 years?</p>
<p>See for example:<br />
<a href="http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=612" rel="nofollow">http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=612</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d be quite shocked if nothing of the sort ever made it&#8217;s way onto the CSUN campus.</p>
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		<title>By: tks</title>
		<link>http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/09/free-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-13100</link>
		<dc:creator>tks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, because someone suing someone else totally negates what that person has to say.

Your logic is flawed.

I got sued 5 years ago as a small business owner...does that mean my entire business is crap?  Nope.

Nice Ad hominem attack though.  Make sure to do this in the future...just talk about the person instead of the topic...it&#039;s good to distract people and mislead them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, because someone suing someone else totally negates what that person has to say.</p>
<p>Your logic is flawed.</p>
<p>I got sued 5 years ago as a small business owner&#8230;does that mean my entire business is crap?  Nope.</p>
<p>Nice Ad hominem attack though.  Make sure to do this in the future&#8230;just talk about the person instead of the topic&#8230;it&#8217;s good to distract people and mislead them.</p>
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