Comments on: It’s time to get out of Afghanistan now http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/11/it%e2%80%99s-time-to-get-out-of-afghanistan-now/ Breaking CSUN news and information. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:52:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: A Good Guy http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/11/it%e2%80%99s-time-to-get-out-of-afghanistan-now/comment-page-1/#comment-46325 A Good Guy Mon, 24 May 2010 20:10:06 +0000 http://sundial.csun.edu/?p=16984#comment-46325 damn right, the border is were our national security issue is. damn right, the border is were our national security issue is.

]]> By: A Good Guy http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/11/it%e2%80%99s-time-to-get-out-of-afghanistan-now/comment-page-1/#comment-46324 A Good Guy Mon, 24 May 2010 20:07:12 +0000 http://sundial.csun.edu/?p=16984#comment-46324 i Think it all horse shit and we should pull out and leave them along. I see it it this way,let them kill each other and let there shitty government crumble under neath them. Obama said he was going to pull out and bring our troops home and hes not doing any thing but adding more troops. i Think it all horse shit and we should pull out and leave them along. I see it it this way,let them kill each other and let there shitty government crumble under neath them. Obama said he was going to pull out and bring our troops home and hes not doing any thing but adding more troops.

]]> By: Joseph Glatzer http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/11/it%e2%80%99s-time-to-get-out-of-afghanistan-now/comment-page-1/#comment-43391 Joseph Glatzer Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:19:57 +0000 http://sundial.csun.edu/?p=16984#comment-43391 Hey Bob I have friends with relatives in Afghanistan too. Maybe you can start by spelling the name of the country properly. These Afghan friends HATE the US/NATO occupation, and they hate the druglords and warlords of the Northern Alliance which have been put in power. Guess what bobby...the people the US put in charge are Islamists too. It's called the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan. The only difference is they're Islamists that play ball with us, so we call it democracy! Get a clue man. Karzai aproved a law which let men rape their wives. The Taliban sucks, no doubt, but the longer the US is there, the more recruits they will get due to our murder of their civilians. We are fighting the same people we funded and propped up to fight the Soviets. In another 20 years, maybe sooner, we are going to be funding the Taliban to knock these guys out of power. Hey Bob I have friends with relatives in Afghanistan too. Maybe you can start by spelling the name of the country properly. These Afghan friends HATE the US/NATO occupation, and they hate the druglords and warlords of the Northern Alliance which have been put in power.

Guess what bobby…the people the US put in charge are Islamists too. It’s called the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan. The only difference is they’re Islamists that play ball with us, so we call it democracy! Get a clue man. Karzai aproved a law which let men rape their wives.

The Taliban sucks, no doubt, but the longer the US is there, the more recruits they will get due to our murder of their civilians. We are fighting the same people we funded and propped up to fight the Soviets. In another 20 years, maybe sooner, we are going to be funding the Taliban to knock these guys out of power.

]]> By: Joseph Glatzer http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/11/it%e2%80%99s-time-to-get-out-of-afghanistan-now/comment-page-1/#comment-43390 Joseph Glatzer Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:13:33 +0000 http://sundial.csun.edu/?p=16984#comment-43390 hey bob you should join NATO and help occupy since you believe in it so much. You could learn some lessons on how to be an imperialist with style hey bob you should join NATO and help occupy since you believe in it so much. You could learn some lessons on how to be an imperialist with style

]]> By: Hussam http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/11/it%e2%80%99s-time-to-get-out-of-afghanistan-now/comment-page-1/#comment-15926 Hussam Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:39:00 +0000 http://sundial.csun.edu/?p=16984#comment-15926 Im sorry but the U.S. and NATO kill innocent Afghans all the time just because they think these innocents are the Taliban, and most of these afghans that die are women and children. So plz tell me, what did the afghan women and children gain since the invasion other than being bombed by the troops and raped by the local warlords who dont get arrested because of their connections with Karzai's government. These afghani friends you're talking about, their relatives either work with the government or work with the foriegn troops or really rich. Today if you go to Afghanistan and ask any random afghans about who they prefer to have as a government then they would tell you that they prefer the Taliban over the current government. Im not a supporter of the Taliban but in the last 30 years the Taliban was the best government the Afghans could ever have. I could tell you that they had stupid rules and thats true, but their positive impacts outweighed the current government's positive impacts and the current government's negative impacts outweighes the taliban's negative impacts. If you think the low crime rate is funny, then before 1996 the afghans never expected to live a life with really low crime rates, they dreamed to have a life like that. Plus a lot of Afghans say during the Taleban days you could walk down at night with a bag full of money and no one would dare to take money from you because criminals knew their limits. Man you gotta give them props for making an impact in a country that faced a lot of wars, killings and rapes. They didnt kill people who said anything bad about them, maybe they jailed them and that was wrong. But the current government does the same thing to the Afghans, a lot of afghans got arrested by NATO for supporting the Taliban over the current government. Also a lot of them get tortured without any charges. Im sorry but the U.S. and NATO kill innocent Afghans all the time just because they think these innocents are the Taliban, and most of these afghans that die are women and children. So plz tell me, what did the afghan women and children gain since the invasion other than being bombed by the troops and raped by the local warlords who dont get arrested because of their connections with Karzai’s government.

These afghani friends you’re talking about, their relatives either work with the government or work with the foriegn troops or really rich.

Today if you go to Afghanistan and ask any random afghans about who they prefer to have as a government then they would tell you that they prefer the Taliban over the current government.

Im not a supporter of the Taliban but in the last 30 years the Taliban was the best government the Afghans could ever have. I could tell you that they had stupid rules and thats true, but their positive impacts outweighed the current government’s positive impacts and the current government’s negative impacts outweighes the taliban’s negative impacts.

If you think the low crime rate is funny, then before 1996 the afghans never expected to live a life with really low crime rates, they dreamed to have a life like that. Plus a lot of Afghans say during the Taleban days you could walk down at night with a bag full of money and no one would dare to take money from you because criminals knew their limits. Man you gotta give them props for making an impact in a country that faced a lot of wars, killings and rapes.

They didnt kill people who said anything bad about them, maybe they jailed them and that was wrong. But the current government does the same thing to the Afghans, a lot of afghans got arrested by NATO for supporting the Taliban over the current government. Also a lot of them get tortured without any charges.

]]> By: bob http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/11/it%e2%80%99s-time-to-get-out-of-afghanistan-now/comment-page-1/#comment-15915 bob Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:09:32 +0000 http://sundial.csun.edu/?p=16984#comment-15915 Hussan you get your facts straight! I have friends who have relatives in Afganistan and they love U.S. troops. They want us to do more. The low crime rate is so funny. Yes any country would have a low crime rate, if they jailed people without beards, stoned woman who were seen with other man, and killed anyone who said anything bad about the government. Hussan you get your facts straight! I have friends who have relatives in Afganistan and they love U.S. troops. They want us to do more. The low crime rate is so funny. Yes any country would have a low crime rate, if they jailed people without beards, stoned woman who were seen with other man, and killed anyone who said anything bad about the government.

]]> By: bob http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/11/it%e2%80%99s-time-to-get-out-of-afghanistan-now/comment-page-1/#comment-15914 bob Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:01:27 +0000 http://sundial.csun.edu/?p=16984#comment-15914 hey joseph you should join the french army. You could use some lessons on how to surrender with perfect hair. hey joseph you should join the french army. You could use some lessons on how to surrender with perfect hair.

]]> By: Hussam http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/11/it%e2%80%99s-time-to-get-out-of-afghanistan-now/comment-page-1/#comment-15848 Hussam Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:42:12 +0000 http://sundial.csun.edu/?p=16984#comment-15848 Brent and bob you guys need to get your facts straight about afghanistan, stop believing the bull**** you hear from the news. First of all the situation in Afghanistan was better under the taliban, do you know why? Well at least the crime rates were very very low in which afghans did not have for more than 20 years, women were not prone to rape like they do now, life expectancy was higher under the taliban, in July, 2000 the Taliban banned the growing of opium and the production went down by 91%, the ban was so effective that Helmend province recorded no poppy cultivation during the 2001 season, they only executed people who murdered or raped, they were fair, really fair, so if you guys actulley want to know who the real murderers and corrupted officials are then you can find them in the current afghan government, your own government supports these criminals, for an example Hamid Karzai's brother makes money from the Opium production in southern afghanistan but he still gets paid by the CIA, Taliban stabelised the country, they also knew how to keep the drug problem under control, plus if you ask most afghans in afghanistan today, they would tell you that they prefer the Taliban. So you people need to get your facts and stop talking about this war like you know whats happening. Brent and bob you guys need to get your facts straight about afghanistan, stop believing the bull**** you hear from the news. First of all the situation in Afghanistan was better under the taliban, do you know why? Well at least the crime rates were very very low in which afghans did not have for more than 20 years, women were not prone to rape like they do now, life expectancy was higher under the taliban, in July, 2000 the Taliban banned the growing of opium and the production went down by 91%, the ban was so effective that Helmend province recorded no poppy cultivation during the 2001 season, they only executed people who murdered or raped, they were fair, really fair, so if you guys actulley want to know who the real murderers and corrupted officials are then you can find them in the current afghan government, your own government supports these criminals, for an example Hamid Karzai’s brother makes money from the Opium production in southern afghanistan but he still gets paid by the CIA, Taliban stabelised the country, they also knew how to keep the drug problem under control, plus if you ask most afghans in afghanistan today, they would tell you that they prefer the Taliban.

So you people need to get your facts and stop talking about this war like you know whats happening.

]]> By: Joseph http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/11/it%e2%80%99s-time-to-get-out-of-afghanistan-now/comment-page-1/#comment-15760 Joseph Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:56:02 +0000 http://sundial.csun.edu/?p=16984#comment-15760 Hey Bob: I took an oath to defend this country after 9-11. I joined the United States Army, in 2004 when we already invaded Iraq, as a true believer in the war on terror. The first time I questioned US military policy, was because of what other soldiers told me: at Fort Jackson, South Carolina. You should not speak before you know the facts of my life, sir. You are in fact the 'sunshine patriot', the 'summer soldier'; because you can't bring yourself to question and criticize the government, for the good of the nation. While people like me and Ron Paul are true Patriots; and those in IVAW are the Winter Soldiers. David: maybe you should run for colonial administrator of Afghanistan, it looks like you are ready for the job. The primitive natives obviously need your help. It's "our duty" according to you, aka the famous "White Man's Burden"? Sending Americans to die over colonization of Southeast Asia, for the enrichment of the ruling class of the US is not patriotic. In fact its the furthest thing from it. EZMan is right: defending our borders with honest police and intelligence work is the best and cheapest way for national security. we need to stop wasting resources on endless war, and for needs unmet at home! why is it congress can send billions for war after war, no questions asked, but to fund our education, a basic right, we must only worry about increasing administrator's high bonus salaries, and raise the taxes on the struggling students? David Bailey: The only way we "desert" the Afghan people, is by continuing our funding of warlords, druglords (like Karzai's brother), and vicious fundamentalists. It's their country. Pull out the military funding, direct it to infrastructure, schools, and hospitals, and let them handle their own fate. Hey Bob: I took an oath to defend this country after 9-11. I joined the United States Army, in 2004 when we already invaded Iraq, as a true believer in the war on terror. The first time I questioned US military policy, was because of what other soldiers told me: at Fort Jackson, South Carolina. You should not speak before you know the facts of my life, sir.

You are in fact the ‘sunshine patriot’, the ‘summer soldier’; because you can’t bring yourself to question and criticize the government, for the good of the nation. While people like me and Ron Paul are true Patriots; and those in IVAW are the Winter Soldiers.

David: maybe you should run for colonial administrator of Afghanistan, it looks like you are ready for the job. The primitive natives obviously need your help. It’s “our duty” according to you, aka the famous “White Man’s Burden”? Sending Americans to die over colonization of Southeast Asia, for the enrichment of the ruling class of the US is not patriotic. In fact its the furthest thing from it.

EZMan is right: defending our borders with honest police and intelligence work is the best and cheapest way for national security. we need to stop wasting resources on endless war, and for needs unmet at home!

why is it congress can send billions for war after war, no questions asked, but to fund our education, a basic right, we must only worry about increasing administrator’s high bonus salaries, and raise the taxes on the struggling students?

David Bailey: The only way we “desert” the Afghan people, is by continuing our funding of warlords, druglords (like Karzai’s brother), and vicious fundamentalists. It’s their country. Pull out the military funding, direct it to infrastructure, schools, and hospitals, and let them handle their own fate.

]]> By: David Bailey http://sundial.csun.edu/2009/11/it%e2%80%99s-time-to-get-out-of-afghanistan-now/comment-page-1/#comment-15732 David Bailey Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:59:02 +0000 http://sundial.csun.edu/?p=16984#comment-15732 But President Obama has said more than once that this is a war we must win. If we desert the Afgan people now, it will make the world a much more dangerous place. The world is too small to ignore events on the other side of the globe. America can not hide from danger. But President Obama has said more than once that this is a war we must win. If we desert the Afgan people now, it will make the world a much more dangerous place. The world is too small to ignore events on the other side of the globe. America can not hide from danger.

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