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Some alternatives before we break out into
protests

By Aaron Helmbrecht Contributing reporter
Published on December 8, 2009

Anonymous
First of all, most students can’t just “deal with it.” Some of us at CSUN have been waiting five or even six years to graduate because we can’t get our major requirements. Plus CSUN has an infinite number of GE classes that everyone has to take which severely holds students back. I know someone who could only get 10 credits for next semester, none of which are to her major, because when she registered for classes yesterday everything was full. She’s thinking about dropping out of college all together because the system has completely screwed her over.
What CSUN students need to do is take direct action, study the conditions of the situation, and see what needs to be done to get back what has been stolen from the students. The cause of these budget cuts has everything to do with the capitalist class stealing from the middle class to give to the rich. Has anyone mentioned that when ol’ Arnie slashed away at public education he agreed to give some of the biggest corporations in California tax breaks. And look how big oil in the state is able to weasel their way out of paying much taxes. In California (or even more specifically, in the USA in general) the ruling capitalist class has way too much power and influence over political leaders. I agree that there’s no way a few spontaneous protests made up of 20-30 students on the CSUN campus are going to fix the problem, and neither will “vent at the tent” type stunts. Why? Because they have no effect on the ruling class. CSUN students need to massively organize (a sort of “people’s war”) and demand that both Gov. Schwarzenegger and Chancellor Reed resign AND demand that a new economic system be put in place in the state of California where class equality will slowly progress. No more budget cuts to public education, no more tuition hikes, no more barriers to making sure everyone is able to get a higher education. From each according to his/her ability, to each according to his/her need. It’s really that simple.

Nick
Nice try, but this article is a failure. A failure to understand what is more important. Yeah, sure we could suck it up, look on the bright side and be happy with what we have.
But is that really the right way to approach life? You call this a learning experience, but are you suggesting that people’s approach to life be “Settle for what you can get?”
Students who do not try, slack off or fail because they’re not dedicated don’t deserve to have their hand held all the way to graduation.
But face it, this is a state university, the goals of the public university system are to provide education to anyone who wants it, and to keep the costs low.
Make it work, California. Student’s shouldn’t have to put up with this kind of sloppy, irresponsible management in Sacramento.

4 Comments

  1. Jacinta May 26, 2010

    Wow, that is a ridiculous situation to be in. Back in my college days if you needed to take a class, you were able to take it, end of story! How stupid not being able to graduate for years and years just because you can’t get the right credits!

  2. Zetaclear Jan 6, 2010

    Hi,

    I must say that was an interesting read as were the comments that would added too. I have to agree with the anonymous commentor and say that it is time get Schwarzenneger out of parliament and instigate federal change soon, before it is too late.

    What angers me more though is that I disagree with what Brent said that we should be lucky that the rich get taxed heavily and that we want a state that takes from the rich and gives to the poor. That could not be further from the truth.

    The Federal Reserve bank of America, which is about as Federal as Federal Express (they are a privately owner company)continue to screw the lower and middle class of America and are hell bent on bankrupty this economy and transferring wealth to the ruling elite.

    A 5 trillion dollar bank bailout and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke says that he doesn’t know where the money went!! Then he changed his tune and said it went to banks, but then he got busted and broke and said a significant amount went to European banks! They are stealing our money.

    By taking on new debt we are digging a hole that we can not climb out of. We already owe $12 trillion on the national debt. There is no balanced budget in sight and entitlement shortfalls are in the $50 trillion range….

    It time to wake up! The American Dollar is about to fall…permanently

    Thanks

    Ian

  3. David Dec 10, 2009

    Thanks, Brent. I noticed the same thing.

    I’m certain the oversight is due to the limited space in the print version. ;-)

  4. Brent Dec 10, 2009

    I find it rather amusing that the CSUN Sundial would chose not to print the responses of David to yesterday’s opinion article. Instead the Sundial or more so Jacky Guerrero decided that an alternative opinion was unnecessary? I can only come to the conclusion that the State, the CSU, and this paper wants to deny the fact that California lives beyond its own means. Perhaps the Budgets should be cut across the board.

    Anyways without further ado I give you David and Joseph as they exchange words over this article. Notice how Joseph’s argument has not basis, while David clearly states his point and uses figures from the state to back it up.

    Wow. What a major mis-read of the situation.

    Businesses and the so-called “rich” along with the middle class are being taxed to death in California, forcing many to flee. That and the huge amount spent on social programs, concessions to public labor unions, spending on things that government has no business in (e.g., stem cell research) and billions on unnecessary and costly public projects such as the bullet train, in other words, spending beyond our means, is the root cause of the problem.

    You’re just selfish and feel that government should be a modern-day Robin Hood: Take from the “rich” and give to the “poor.” You should be grateful for how much the taxpayers have paid for your education.

    You can thank Democrats and Schwarzennger who acts like one, voters like you and elected officials for the state’s fiscal situation. “It’s really that simple.”

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    Joseph says:
    December 9, 2009 at 3:05 pm
    this is perhaps the most ignorant crap i ever read.

    in california most business DO NOT PAY ANY INCOME TAXES AT ALL!!!!

    THEY get tax giveaways and free rides, and then when their tax free holiday runs out, they go to another tax holiday state.

    do your research that’s not on a right wing website.

    this is pathetic crap.

    with people like you the rich and powerful that SCREW US don’t need to do much work. people like you make students keep themselves down. who’s side are you on? what’s wrong with you? do you think people are working less and less hard than before? do you think students are just lazy and should “get a job” theres no jobs! what can people do!?

    get a mental exam you need help

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    David says:
    December 9, 2009 at 11:05 pm
    Why don’t you do some research before you go name-calling? Too emotional? Here’s a statistic from the state of California Web site: Corporations paid $11,849,097,000 plus another $2,172,936,000 from the insurance industry to the state in 2008. You’re welcome to read the state’s own budget figures here: http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/pdf/BudgetSummary/BS_SCH3.pdf

    You spew liberal rancor.

    BTW, I work at CSUN. I’m hardly rich and definitely not powerful. I’m on the “side” of people taking responsibility for themselves and not looking for a free ride.

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    David says:
    December 10, 2009 at 12:07 am
    I was thinking that I probably didn’t convince you. You probably still won’t be convinced after this addendum, however I’m gonna give it a shot:

    What do you think allows the biggest chunk of state taxes–income taxes–to be generated? Answer: private-sector employment. If the state taxes corporations more, what do you think is going to happen? Answer: higher unemployment; higher prices for products and services, or most likely, both.

    This is simple stuff, Joseph. What are they teaching you here at CSUN?

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