LA city council will vote to ban medical marijuana dispensaries

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The Los Angeles City council will vote this month for a ban on all L.A. county medical marijuana dispensaries and collectives until they are legalized by the Supreme Court.

Dozens of illegal pot shops are opening on a consistent basis and have lead to crime in the community such as robberies and underage use, according to Rick Coca, director of communications for councilman Jose Huizar.

“One of the biggest problems we’re facing is secondary sales where they’re selling it outside. Police are telling us the marijuana is finding its way into high schools and that directly affects the quality of life for people,” Coca said.

Some medical marijuana advocates, such as Sarah Armstrong, the legal liaison for the Greater Los Angeles Collective Alliance, believe Huizar has ulterior motives for pushing a ban.

“Huizar is very anxious for a ban because he’s running for district attorney and would like to be able to say to law enforcement that he was tough on crime and put an end to the California cannabis debate,” Armstrong said. “That sort of adds to his plan to be the next district attorney.”

According to Coca, Huizar supports California Proposition 215, or the Compassionate Use Act of 1996, which lists strict rules dispensaries must abide by in order to operate legally.

The proposition states collectives must have registered with the state by Sept. 14, 2007 and must have an armed guard on the premises during open hours to meet the state-regulated standard.

Since 2007, hundreds of illegal “rogue” dispensaries have taken the opportunity to open shop due to loopholes in the proposition, Armstrong said.

“The city can’t manage the problems all these extra dispensaries have brought. If the city tries to shut them down, the illegal dispensaries have a lot of money to sue because they weren’t spending $6,000 a month on a guard, they weren’t paying taxes, they weren’t a corporate entity,” Armstrong said. “They were just a storefront providing marijuana to whoever walked in.”

Half of all Americans are in favor of legalizing marijuana on a federal basis, according to a poll in October 2011 taken by the Huffington Post.

“The rogue’s have refused to close down under two separate ordinances that the city gave them – one in 2010 and one in 2011. The city really doesn’t have the money it takes to do that,“ Armstrong said. “To come in and raid somebody costs $10,000 to $15,000 per dispensary. And all they do is open up the next morning. So that’s really not a solution either.”

According to Coca, more than 250,000 California residents have been evaluated by doctors and issued medical marijuana licenses, and a ban may anger those who have purchased the right to responsibly use cannabis as prescribed.

“I spent $150 for a license that’s valid for a whole year,” said Joe Siminson, a medical biller who uses marijuana to cope with depression and anxiety. “There’s no doubt I’ll be in the voting booth to fight for my rights if the city goes through with this ban.”

Coca said the ordinance is aimed directly at shutting down storefronts but patients would still be allowed to grow their own marijuana or have a caregiver provide it to them.

“If people want to legalize marijuana, that’s fine. They’re free to try and do that. But as a city government, we have do deal with the laws in front of us,” Coca said. “The city has 3.8 million residents and we have to protect their rights as well — the majority of which are not medical marijuana patients.”


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  • Diamondron2002

    This is the most idiotic commentary ive read somebody better show Mr Huisar the door How this idiot got elected and can look at himself in the mirror must be using Alcohol and prescription drugs to keep his head so far up his ASS! if you close down the stores the dealers go back to the corners and watch what happens isnt under an ounce a 100 ticket and misdemeanor everyone on the corner will have 27 grams on them and the cops really couldnt do shit! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-Duff/782019738 Patrick Duff

    OK, maybe I am stupid or something, the first problem mentioned is secondary sales in front of these places.  What do you think will happen if you ban these places?  You will force hundreds of thousands of people back to street sales.  How about banning some of these prescription medications or writing tougher rules for doctors and pharmacists who lead to the deaths of over 150,000 Americans a year? 

    So can you imagine the people with severe condition needing to go back to the parking lot of Ralph’s with a 50% chance of being ripped off every time they get something?  That is true public awareness by our public officials of our citizens safety, NOT!  They should be thrown in jail for their inaction and complete bumbling of this situation in our city. 

    • Xnewfaces

       Maybe you should find a better connection for pot then a parking lot.
      My connection lives in a house. Not all pot patients are as inept as you think.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-Duff/782019738 Patrick Duff

         That’s great that you only think about yourself.  What about those who don’t have a buddy who’s house they can go by?  What happens to the people who get robbed, ripped off, or raped while trying to get their meds?  That is real crime, with a real victim, and a detriment to society.

        To ban all collectives would kill the most needy patients quickly and almost literally throw the baby out with the bath water.  Except instead of a baby it will be someone who is wasting away from cancer or AIDS. 

        • Xnewfaces

           Those people that don’t have a buddy’s house they could
          go to should have long ago done their home work by keeping their
          ears out. By not doing this and idly sitting by they only screwed themselves and have no one to blame but themselves period. My friends and I are MMJ patients kept our ears and eye’s out for years (and any newbie could have done the same for months and weeks recently) and seen this ban coming long ago and we did something about it and blame no one. You could paint it any way you
          like but the bottom line is most MMJ patients screwed themselves
          by relying ONLY on the pot shops from the get go, swayed in by the
          candy store atmosphere only to finally realize the fairy tale is over.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-Duff/782019738 Patrick Duff

             I guess you can’t answer how it is a person who gets diagnosed with AIDS or cancer would go who never smoked cannabis before?  Can you imagine that person either trying to find a street dealer or just growing it on their own.  One way they might get killed before the cancer kills them,  and the other way they may be dead before the plant is finished from wasting syndrome after Chemo.  How would you suggest they “find a buddy”? 

            Your writing is suspect.  I feel you probably work down at city hall for Mr. Huizar and this article is nothing but a lobbyists slant on the situation, and they aren’t even honest.  They present no opposing view.  The title is not only misleading, but it leads one to believe that a ban is imminent, and is not journalism.  How about “City council will vote whether or not to ban dispensaries”, wouldn’t that be more accurate?  Why is it only the Daily Sun wrote about this now?  Kind of like a press release by those in favor of the ban since it has stalled like a car running out of gas before it even hit the council floor.

          • Xnewfaces

             Any Aids or Cancer patient should be able to find
            meds all over the place and not all street deals end up with patients dead, ripped off or injured.
            Pot is obtainable everywhere. The pot market is totally flooded and after all pot has been around and obtainable for centuries and any AIDS or Cancer patient could also obtain their meds thru a friend(s) or family member(s) if the patient can’t find any themselves.
            Also the patient who has not a green thumb could also have a caregiver, family member or friend grow for them. Got to start somewhere and not be so inept
            to get meds if that is the case. Pot has been around in hoards before the pot shops opened and people got their meds regardless of the laws.
            There is your simple answer to your question.
            Very simple.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-Duff/782019738 Patrick Duff

            Your answer is very simple, at least you admit that part.  The difficult part is what the reality is for folks who have to buy on the street, especially those who are more at risk of getting ripped off, robbed or killed just trying to get some herb.  Women are one group of people, as cannabis consumers, that are much safer in the current environment rather then what you are suggesting. 

            Please watch a movie called In Pot We Trust and you will see what it is like for a disabled woman to need to buy pot from the streets. 

            As to ones friends, or family helping them obtain medicine or growing it for themselves, are you living in a bubble or something?  Some people don’t have either.  Some people, for who they are, either Gay or just in some way, different, have been shunned by their families.  Some people have mental conditions which don’t allow for “friends”.

            When you go to the doctor and you have an infection the doctor gives you a prescription for anti-biotics.  That doesn’t mean you have to wait for the bread to mold to get them, because if you did, you’d be dead by then.  No, you go to a pharmacy and get what you need to survive.  Why do you want to take people’s rights to survive and not suffer?  What kind of reefer madness do you think you are selling here? 

            It is easy to see your motives, they are clear, you are a pettifogger of the issues.  A political schill…..

          • Xnewfaces

             ”The difficult part is what the reality is for folks who have to buy on
            the street, especially those who are more at risk of getting ripped off,
            robbed or killed just trying to get some herb.  Women are one group of
            people, as cannabis consumers, that are much safer in the current
            environment rather then what you are suggesting.”

            You are right about the streets but the same(ripped off, robbed or killed) could happen in the dispensaries and has happened on several occasions
            so it is not much safer at a pot shop then the streets. 

            “As to ones friends, or family helping them obtain medicine or growing it
            for themselves, are you living in a bubble or something?  Some people
            don’t have either.  Some people, for who they are, either Gay or just in
            some way, different, have been shunned by their families.  Some people
            have mental conditions which don’t allow for “friends”. ”

            Yes but this is far from the norm.
            Most people are not gay, that different or shunned by family and most people have friends so your statement is a small exception and nothing more.

            Like I said before, Marijuana has been very easily obtainable for centuries without pot shops and all black market dealers are not bad people. All the one’s I have known for the past 35+ years are good honest people so pot criminals are not the norm but they are out there no doubt.

          • Xnewfaces

             so pot criminals are not the norm but some are out there in the streets and running the pot shops as well as many could agree.

          • Patrick

            Our country gives equal protection to all, not just the normal people, or at least that’s what we strive for.  Your plan alienates those folks even more so then they already are now who are not in the “norm”. 

            Also, you haven’t answered what a person who has never smoked and knows nobody who does that gets sick and needs the medicine, what will they do? 

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-Duff/782019738 Patrick Duff

        No rebuttal?

  • Voan D

    Most of the allegations written about are about 80% false. i my self have never ever stepped to the front door of a MMJ Dispensary without being asked for California Identification and my Doctor’s Medical Rec. truthfully all patience are denied access to the front counter if you enter the premises of a MMJ dispensary with out “both” a rec and valid identification. and about the kids in high schools getting there hands on Medical Marijuana, truth is most of its not medical, they get there hands on street marijuana, and when there caught with it they blame dispensaries. there is a huge difference in the strains. and they know that. don’t blame a medicine that can be grown in just about any hidden patch of vegetation any where in the U.S. that’s not right, the state needs to stop trying to control virtually every aspect of our lives. further more i’m just going to be blunt and honest, since before the big boom of MMJ Dispensaries, people where getting it in so many ways and getting in so much trouble, now that its legal “For Patients” we don’t get in trouble regarding MMJ because none of us want to lose our licensees, and we are smart enough to keep cleared of any misconduct if we want to keep our licences.  Yeah we know what it is, don’t try to play us for fools, and you’ve taken enough from us, please don’t take any more, PLEASE.

  • Savannah Coen

     I am agree that half of all Americans are in favor of legalizing marijuana on a federal basis, when related to medical issues and I do not support the ban. I hope that ways protecting both citizens and patients’ rights will be found.
    House Moving

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TFQC7I5CCNAG66KJYD373M5E2U BigMac

    I watched a very dear friend die from cancer. Marijuana helped him through chemo. He didn’t have an appetite or any interest in food without its calming affects. On his death bed he asked me to destroy any evidence of his drug use so his parents wouldn’t be ashamed of him.

    • Scott

      So sorry for your loss.  And REALLY sorry that our society made him feel ashamed at using a safe medicinal product to ease his pain and suffering.  It makes me want to cry to think that on his death bed, that was what he was thinking of.  When are we going to learn?

  • http://normlsucks.com/ Jose

    Jury nullication, see how red the judges’ faces get.

    Prosecutors will no longer be able to find juries to convict.

    It caused the end of Prohibition, it will work again.

  • Shawn Tippie

    “Coca said the ordinance is aimed directly at shutting down storefronts
    but patients would still be allowed to grow their own marijuana or have a
    caregiver provide it to them.”

    By “caregiver” he means Mexican drug cartels, right? The reason there is a problem is because the city refuses to regulate prop 215. Teetotalers only want one thing and that’s prohibition.

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